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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Nov 5, 2012 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

COLORADO: Vote YES on Amendment 64
OREGON: Vote YES on Measure 80.
Of the two I prefer Oregon's which is closer to true legalization, but both are worthy of support.
Unfortunately I cannot support Washington's i-502 which has too many flaws and seems to be a fraudulent legalization initiative.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 6, 2012 2:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

A young Obama would gladly approve of these!

http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/1412/Obama_with_a_joint.jpg


He still does, but doesn't want you to know.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GZLLiKM_N80/T8FdaIe6C9I/AAAAAAAAMbA/eDoLtzj6k58/s1600/obama+findraise.jpg


This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2012-11-06 22:18:57

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Nov 5, 2012 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

needs to be done at a federal level or don't bother

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 5, 2012 3:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

Yes Strat. Right on.

This is the most humorous issue, or non-issue, in the Presidential Election. President Obama completely let down the social liberals(his core supporters) by intensifying the crack-down on medical dispensaries and grows in California(and other states, I assume). Certainly one of his most conservative cave-ins as President. When he was elected I thought, "if nothing else there will be some sanity in Washington regarding marijuana laws and the imprisonment of non-violent offenders". Wrong. Disappointed.

DEM supporters are willing to overlook his position on this issue to get him re-elected and the REPS won't put his feet to that fire because they agree with his continuation of the war-on-drugs and drug-users. Nobody is there to call-out this administration regarding the on-going criminalization of innocent, law-abiding adults. In Washington, they are all on the take and there seems to be plenty to go around.

Here's why:

"The CCPOA(California Correctional Peace Officers Association) has played a significant role in advocating pro-incarceration policies and opposing pro-rehabilitative policies in California. In 1980, CCPOA’s 5,600 members earned about $21,000 a year and paid dues of about $35 a month. After the rapid expansion of the prison population beginning in the 1980s, CCPOA’s 33,000 members today earn approximately $73,000 and pay monthly dues of about $80. These dues raise approximately $23 million each year, of which the CCPOA allocates approximately $8 million to lobbying. As [author Joan] Petersilia explains, “The formula is simple: more prisoners lead to more prisons; more prisons require more guards; more guards means more dues-paying members and fund-raising capability; and fund-raising, of course, translates into political influence"."

I have family and friends that work in these institutions. They are people for whom I care deeply, but this system is so f*cked for everybody except those in the game. Mostly it's tax-payers and the non-violent offenders being screwed.

And that's my rant for the year folks. You've been great! See ya next time!

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Nov 5, 2012 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

I have no idea why Eric Holders enforcement shutdown the largest dispensary in Oakland (harborside) and several other (ma and pa) outlets this year in California, the media has stated that many were in violation of various State laws such as proximity to schools and numbers of locations in proximity to one another, whatever.

Some say it was a diversion to take attention away from the "Fast and Furious" Republican fueled scandal and frankly why the "War on Drugs" still gets any funding from Congress is a freakin mystery to me. It's a waste of resources and an antiquated and failed policy.

I believe that legalization would help to reduce the insane violence in Mexico and keep folks safer on our streets and since everyone seems to be looking for new tax revenues why not take the morality play out of the equation and consider the potential revenue stream for debt reduction.

Most progressive states have decriminalized possession of less than one ounce and since when has it ever been a struggle for a head to score some ganja anyway? Go Colorado! Go Oregon! If any of these propositions pass expect some serious heat from Uncle Sam.

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

See above. It's their answer to jobs, jobs, jobs. Been the case since the early 80s. Republicans and Democrats working together (Insert Bush smirk here).

Just another political bait and switch. This one Chicago style.

Vote out all incumbents for 4 cycles.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Nov 5, 2012 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

yeah, but it is when a few states adjust their laws that drags the Feds in kicking and screaming. Force it to the Supreme Court.

Unfortunately the WA version is complete BS. You can own it, but you can't grow it, you can't buy it and if you have it you better not give any to or smoke any with your friends as that would be distribution - which is still 100% illegal.

Plus there is a DUI limit that would catch you if you smoked it 2 weeks ago with no regard to actually being impaired.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Nov 5, 2012 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

being a registered Washington voter I heartily agree with PG here, i-502 appears to me to be complete BS and I am voting against it!

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Nov 5, 2012 4:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Colorado and Oregon... Vote To End Prohibition

Here's an overview of Amendment 64:

http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/about